[Horizon Zero Dawn]Horizon Forbidden West Comparison Shows Improvements Over Zero Dawn

  Tecinthebrain

  1TecinthebrainSat 29th May 2021

  I’m guessing they aren’t using HZD PC otherwise this would be a completely different video

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  Rubber_Duck

  2Rubber_DuckSat 29th May 2021

  Somehow her face has changed shape, she looks younger and y’know, carrying some weight. Still, altered character model aside, it does look incredible. Especially when you consider the fact it’s not a complete generational leap.

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  Th3solution

  3Th3solutionSat 29th May 2021

  The character models look so much better. Less uncanny valley. Although Aloy looks younger rather than older.

  And I do hope they add ray tracing.

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  EverydayRobot

  4EverydayRobotSat 29th May 2021

  Aloys put on a few pounds over lock down by the look of it

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  RBMango

  5RBMangoSat 29th May 2021

  Digital Foundry pointed out that glow around Aloy, and now I can’t unsee it.

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  Richnj

  6RichnjSat 29th May 2021

  @EverydayRobot She did, and I approve.

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  Deadhunter

  7DeadhunterSat 29th May 2021

  Man, not only do the models look better, but they move more realistically. No more Ken and Barbie conversations. Getting hyped!

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  Sam-Bridges

  8Sam-BridgesSat 29th May 2021

  They’ve obviously improved a LOT in terms of environmental design (even though HZD’s environments are still some of the best out there). I hope the PS5 version gets ray tracing, missed opportunity with this gorgeous world.

  I don’t see why some say Aloy looks younger, though! In any case, I don’t think it’s been a long while since Frozen Wilds events. I love the new models, Erend looks so much better now!

  So hyped for this game, cannot wait.

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  Loftimus

  9LoftimusSat 29th May 2021

  It looks like she found a maccy d’s in the forbidden west and put on some timber.

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  get2sammyb

  10get2sammybSat 29th May 2021

  @RBMango I’ve seen a lot of chatter about this — it’s on its way to becoming puddlegate, I think — but personally I actually like it.

  The game’s going for hyper-realism and I think it makes sense for Aloy to be “lit” like she’s in a YouTube video or something. Not only does it look good, but I think it helps with readability and makes her stand out from the dense scenery.

  Not sure what DF said about this, but I like it. ?♀?

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  thefourfoldroot

  11thefourfoldrootSat 29th May 2021

  @Sam-Bridges

  Personally, ray tracing, apart from reflections, always makes scenes look worse to me. Sure it’s more realistic, but usually nowhere near as dramatic.

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  fR_eeBritney

  12fR_eeBritneySat 29th May 2021

  **Spoiler**

  It’s been a while since I played the first game so this might not be possible… but has it been confirmed that it’s the same Aloy from the first game? Or could it be a different clone from another Zero Dawn facility? Why build one can you can have two twice the price.

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  Residentsteven

  13ResidentstevenSat 29th May 2021

  @EverydayRobot was going to say this I prefer my lady’s larger anyway tmi .

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  RBMango

  14RBMangoSat 29th May 2021

  @get2sammyb The way I heard it, DF sounded more like they were observing it rather than criticizing it. I get why it’s there for visibility purposes, but I hope they tone it down in the final game.

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  Katsuhono

  15KatsuhonoSat 29th May 2021

  @get2sammyb I haven’t watched DF video on the subject but it did distract me a bit during the demo, especially when Aloy was running through brightly lit and shadowy areas of the forest the lighting on her stayed almost the same. I understand why it’s done and it doesn’t look bad ! My personal preference would be to tone it down just a tad qo that Aloy maybe sits a bit more in the world but I definitely understand the need to make her very clear and I’d be okay if they didn’t change anything.

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  Deadlyblack

  16DeadlyblackSat 29th May 2021

  That water improvement is insane.

  Also I’m glad they stepped up on the facial animations and body movement during cutscenes. They were a little too stiff in the first game.

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  RBMango

  17RBMangoSat 29th May 2021

  Also, I REALLY hope there’s a 60 fps mode. It would be a damn shame to have this action-heavy goodness locked at 30 fps. Lord knows the PS5 can handle it with the RTX turned off and the resolution scaled down a bit.

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  HMazzy111

  18HMazzy111Sat 29th May 2021

  @Tecinthebrain Why would they The footage of Forbidden West isn’t on PC so that would make no sense. It’s a comparison between last gen and current gen consoles.

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  Jayofmaya

  19JayofmayaSat 29th May 2021

  @EverydayRobot @Richnj What a strange observation to highlight. I think a part of me noticed but it left my conscious completely unaltered by it, as I had no reaction. -shrugs-

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  Orpheus79V

  20Orpheus79VSat 29th May 2021

  No raytracing is interesting, but I think not including it could lead to a massive visual jump when (if?) they make Horizon 3 just for PS5 and they go all out (including adding the flying mechanic to add on to this one expanding on exploration via the ocean). Imagining an Uncharted 1 to 2 style jump in my head here.

  @get2sammyb I recall John saying the same thing about readability in the DF video. They seemed a little puzzled but ultimately fine with it.

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  Richnj

  21RichnjSat 29th May 2021

  @Jayofmaya I think if it was just during the video I may not have noticed, but having a side by side still gave a good chance to compare them.

  A strange observation to highlight would be how left Aloy’s face reminds me of Ryan Reynolds.

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  BRUTALSAM

  22BRUTALSAMSat 29th May 2021

  @munstre every game needs ray tracing and 60fps at least.

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  UltimateOtaku91

  23UltimateOtaku91Sat 29th May 2021

  Looks more next gen that any game shown so for for any console

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  Bamila

  24BamilaSat 29th May 2021

  I rather take 60fps over raytracing. Ever since I got ps5 getting back to games that are capped at 30fps or doesn’t have performance toggle is a chore for my eyes.

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  Bamila

  25BamilaSat 29th May 2021

  @RBMango I have noticed it during the state of play, her hair stands out especially. It’s like the shadows doesn’t apply on her or something and she is just pre-shaded on her own.

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  Bamila

  26BamilaSat 29th May 2021

  @Sam-Bridges she might not look younger, but she is thicc now that’s for sure

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  KnightRider1982

  27KnightRider1982Sat 29th May 2021

  I prefer Aloy to Lara Croft.

  Aloy is fanciable, Lara is not.

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  The_New_Butler

  28The_New_ButlerSat 29th May 2021

  @RBMango that’s the problem with DF videos, the more you watch the more aware you become of the minutiae of games graphics and performance and the more noticeable they become in other titles.

  DF are in part responsible for ruining some games on Switch for me because I can’t not notice all the artifacts and aliasing and the softer picture.

  It was better being ignorant in this case.

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  Enuo

  29EnuoSat 29th May 2021

  I’m glad to see Guerilla to the criticism of the first games to heart. I cant wait to say this.

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  AhmadSumadi

  30AhmadSumadiSat 29th May 2021

  This actually showed me more how incredible Horizon: Zero Dawn was than how incredible Forbidden West will be. Not saying it’s a bad thing but damn was Horizon: Zero Dawn great!

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  PhhhCough

  31PhhhCoughSat 29th May 2021

  Di…did sony chibi aloy?

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  nomither6

  32nomither6Sat 29th May 2021

  from young woman to little boy i guess

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  Octane

  33OctaneSat 29th May 2021

  @get2sammyb the video needs an awful music warning

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  Ward_ting

  34Ward_tingSat 29th May 2021

  @fR_eeBritney it’s supposed to be set 6 months after the first game but it is definitely the same Aloy and not another. The fact she is still called Aloy is enough to confirm that as it was the name given by the Nora. The chance of there being another clone with the same name is pretty slim. Also Erind and Sylens are characters from the first game and seem to feature quite heavily in this one. Nice idea though, perhaps she could bump into herself elsewhere…

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  Athrum

  35AthrumSat 29th May 2021

  @Loftimus dude you made me spit my beer

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  Toypop

  36ToypopSat 29th May 2021

  Jury is out for me.

  Disappointed naturally that Sony have backtracked on “generations” and are making games compatible with prehistoric 2013 hardware, that itself was considered out of date and underwhelming even 8 years ago….

  I enjoyed the first game as I was driven forward to learn about how this bizarre world had come about. In reality it was a generic Ubisoft-esque icon fest, but that story gave it a slight edge over the dozens of other titles.

  So what do we have now? Well a small evolutionary rather than revolutionary improvement in graphics, and where do you take the story?

  I’d caution Sony that if they whack a £70 label on this, I’ll do what I did with Returnal. They could come a cropper if not careful.

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  nessisonett

  37nessisonettSat 29th May 2021

  At least Aloy doesn’t look like she’s holding in a fart anymore!

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  thedevilsjester

  38thedevilsjesterSat 29th May 2021

  @Toypop It will most certainly be $70, there is no reason for it not to be. Yes I am disappointed (in general) with their desire for cross generation support. It limits the potential; but that doesn’t mean the game won’t still be amazing. The first one was, with all of the PS4 limitations.

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  trev666

  39trev666Sat 29th May 2021

  I dont care its all about the story and what they managed to do with the ending of the first one

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  Johnnycide

  40JohnnycideSat 29th May 2021

  It looks great, I’m super hyped, and I’m really blown away by the effort that’s gone into this but I have to say it…

  Aloy has a weird shaped head.

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  Total_Weirdo

  41Total_WeirdoSat 29th May 2021

  Unfortunately it looks like the Horizon Forbidden West game engine is just built for the PS4 mechanical HDD as i saw a few moments of poppin during the PS5 demonstration.

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  Illy333

  42Illy333Sat 29th May 2021

  Hahaha she looks like that fat youtuber who eats and is awful.

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  Katsuhono

  43KatsuhonoSat 29th May 2021

  @Toypop I’d honestly take this approach to the one from the PS4 and PS3 era, I yad absolutely no interest in a ps4 until Bloodborne and then the next interesting exclusive for me was Uncharted, I waited 2018 to get one. I’ve had a PS5 day one and played 4-5 exclusives on it and loved every minute of it. And we’re still getting Ratchet and Clank, Kena and Horizon later this year, that’s insane to me.

  Plus, HZD came out in 2017, the sequel probably started right away, they probably didn’t know what the PS5 would look like.

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  Party_Cannon

  44Party_CannonSat 29th May 2021

  Weird.. even though the environments look more detailed, maybe it’s the lighting but the old one looks less cartoony and more solid. I like the older-age look of the model over the new one as well. I’m not really impressed. Esp considering this is footage from a PS5.

  What’s with the shoulder-frill that popped in too? That’s not a LOD issue, the camera was right beside her and her frill.

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  rjejr

  45rjejrSat 29th May 2021

  Would rather see a HZD vs HFW comparison on the PS4. Have we seen ANYTHING of the PS4 version of HFW yet? We kinda already know next gen is going to be better looking that last gen, what we don’t know is how this game looks on PS4. ?♂?

  I’ve watched the YT vid twice now on my 75″ 4k tv and it blows away the first game that I played on my 52″ 1080p TV. That doesn’t really tell me anything about game comparisons tho now does it? That’s kind of how this feels to me. 4k is better than 1080p, anyone surprised by this?

  I thought Aloy put on adult weight. I thought this was maybe 6 years later, so she went from being a 16 year old, or maybe she was 18, to 24 or 25. It’s the difference between being asked for ID when buying beer and not being asked. BTW here in the US it’s 21, I know a lot of you have it better over there.

  I pre-ordered the red PS5 controller yesterday b/c I really want to play this on PS5 since I spent a grand on a 4k tv. Now I need a PS5.

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  Grimwood

  46GrimwoodSat 29th May 2021

  Looks insane. Sure

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  rpg2000

  47rpg2000Sat 29th May 2021

  It looks excellent and it looks like a lot of love and effort was put into making this game. Those complaining here are picky as hell (for some of the most redundant things ever), which is quite annoying frankly… thanks god you guys only constitute to the very minority. I mean just read what that user Toypop said and can help but to laugh at how absurd that comment sounds…

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  Toypop

  48ToypopSat 29th May 2021

  @Katsuhono to be honest if they were developing it as a PS4 game from the start, Sony shouldn’t have lied about “generations”.

  Sony have a poor reputation for lying and I am frankly sick of it.

  From the laughable claims of realistic hair and water on the PS2 that they used to spoil the Dreamcast, through to the “bullshots” of PS3 games, I really have lost my patience with them.

  We likely won’t see a true “next gen” Horizon game until 2025 now. They won’t be seeing £70 from me until 2025 either.

  Clearly the extra CPU power, RAM and drive speed, aren’t required to run the new Horizon game (if it can run on PS4 right).

  So the game can ultimately run on the same inadequate cellphone grade CPU’s that have crippled gaming for almost a decade. What a waste.

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  LordSteev

  49LordSteevSat 29th May 2021

  @Party_Cannon Surprised I had to read all the way down to your comment before finding someone else who liked the old model better.

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  LordSteev

  50LordSteevSat 29th May 2021

  Well, Aloy keeps getting uglier. Sounds like some of you won’t be happy ’till she’s 300lbs. chasing dirty kids around the trailer park in a beer stained wife-beater tanktop.

  Still looking forward to the comeback of the unrealistically beautiful superhero girl in gaming.

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  blinx01

  51blinx01Sat 29th May 2021

  Graphically it’s a huge leap, but not a fan of what they’ve done to the character model.

  Looks completely different facially and reminds me of the Peter Parker horrible face swap.

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  Nepp67

  52Nepp67Sat 29th May 2021

  So she does have a fat face in the new one. Not sure I like that.

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  OmegaStriver

  53OmegaStriverSat 29th May 2021

  The new fat face doesn’t suit the rest of her body.

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  vapidwolf

  54vapidwolfSat 29th May 2021

  @Tecinthebrain why would they when forbidden west isn’t on pc and hzd was only released last year

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  B_Lindz

  55B_LindzSat 29th May 2021

  @Tecinthebrain Nah, man. The animations are sooooo much better in Forbidden West. I couldn’t even finish the first game because the uncanny valley of the character models and animations got to me so badly.

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  TJ81

  56TJ81Sat 29th May 2021

  Anyone else think Aloy is starting to resemble Kevin’s brother Buzz from Home Alone?

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  Spoonman-2

  57Spoonman-2Sat 29th May 2021

  Maybe she has had some botox injections

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  wiiware

  58wiiwareSat 29th May 2021

  Why aloy face become fat all of a sudden? She spend her time doing a lot of platforming, running, killing enemy, swimming, and now in the sequels she’s fat?

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  Katsuhono

  59KatsuhonoSat 29th May 2021

  @Toypop PS4 had some of the best game I’ve played in a long while, good games, great games can be made on old hardware. I agree that the wait for ”true next gen experience” like they’ve promised us feels long. Ratchet & Clank being the first real taste of what can be done on the new hardware. But at the same time the constraint of the past did not stand in the way of absolute gems.

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  Th3solution

  60Th3solutionSat 29th May 2021

  @munstre @thefourfoldroot I’m admittedly ignorant in the tech department, but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed ray tracing in Control Ultimate Ed. I tried the 60fps performance mode and ended up missing the reflections and lighting so I went back to graphics mode with the 30fps and RTX for the entire game.

  So Forbidden West, probably releasing 1 year after the console launch will be 30fps, no RTX. I’m sure the load times will be quick on PS5, so at least there’s that. But it does seem hamstrung when Demon’s Souls, Miles Morales, Returnal, R&C ….all have 60fps, RTX, etc. I’m not complaining, I’ll still really enjoy the game certainly, but I’m wondering the PR optics of the technical compromises being done to keep a PS4 version viable. It’s possible God of War will be the same issue as they’re hinting it will be cross-gen also.

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  AdamNovice

  61AdamNoviceSat 29th May 2021

  @Arugula I’m just grateful that it still obviously looks like Aloy. It’s a pet peeve of mine when developers change how a character looks between games. Naughty Dog are pretty bad for that. The Ellie in most of the Part 2 flashbacks looks like a different person to the first game.

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  AdamNovice

  62AdamNoviceSat 29th May 2021

  @fR_eeBritney I’ve never thought of that possibility but I’m 100% sure it’s the same Aloy, she knows Erend for a start, though it could make for an interesting plot point.

  As for how Aloy is lit, well she is the Sci-fi equivalent of an angel sent from heaven to defeat evil, maybe it’s her halo. That’s my head canon anyway.

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  KundaliniRising333

  63KundaliniRising333Sat 29th May 2021

  @get2sammyb Yes, Considering her tribal like outfits, she may blend in too well to certain environments that could ultimately hinder gameplay. I am guessing this was the primary reason for that design choice.

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  Th3solution

  64Th3solutionSat 29th May 2021

  @munstre Oh sure — to each his/her own, I’m not calling it ‘correct’ to prefer graphics or performance; sorry if I came across as judgmental or grandstanding as a graphic whore or something. I’m just relaying my experience. It seems some players are more sensitive to frame rate than others. Probably the same reason some people get nauseated with VR and some don’t.

  As for this game not having a 60fps mode, you’re right in that it might be there at release, but I’m not sure why they would make a state of play and specifically declare the footage is gameplay on PS5 and then not show the game at its best. But like I say, I’m not a developer and didn’t know RTX was more difficult to implement than frame rate, etc.

  And for Returnal, I thought I read there is a partial form of RTX present in some of the game’s lighting? Maybe I’m misremembering that but maybe it was in one of the developer diaries I was watching.

  HFW will be fine; heck it will most likely be outstanding and look and run fabulously. Like I said, I’m just wondering if the public perception is going to take a hit if it doesn’t have current gen bells and whistles. And by virtue of the chatter in these articles it’s evidence that it is in the collective mindset of the gamers. Whether fair or not, cross gen games have a reputation of having to sacrifice somewhere to make the games run on old hardware, else they end up like Cyberpunk 2077.

  Edit: “this game is easily one of the best looking things I’ve ever seen, up there with Ratchet, and nothing about it looks ‘hamstrung’ relative to current standards”. …see — 30fps looks fine to you apparently as well

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  skaarj217

  65skaarj217Sat 29th May 2021

  Those chubby cheeks…

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  Jayofmaya

  66JayofmayaSat 29th May 2021

  @Richnj haha but that’s funny! I say, always go for weird first. But seriously, just the left side? xD

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  Th3solution

  67Th3solutionSat 29th May 2021

  @munstre Oh yeah, gamers (myself included) like to complain and dissect things and then at the end of the day, we still pony up the dough and will buy, play (and enjoy) these games anyway.

  It’s like someone further up in the comments said — sometimes watching videos like this that break down the technical aspects actually ruins the experience because we pick apart things we normally wouldn’t even have noticed while playing the game.

  And Returnal does have ray tracing, according to Google. But I do think it’s not on all the time or is somehow limited according to situation. Which for me makes sense. It’s not needed during intense kinetic battles, and really is more impactful during the slower moments of exploration. But anyways, we can agree to disagree on its importance. And I do agree though that a brightly lit outdoor world like Horizon benefit less from it than a darker one with a lot of windows and artificial light sources.

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  sketchturner

  68sketchturnerSat 29th May 2021

  BotW2? Nah… I’m more pumped for this

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  fR_eeBritney

  69fR_eeBritneySat 29th May 2021

  @Ward_ting yeah, maybe not then but I am hoping for some twists and turns. The plot in the first game was incredible. The way they tried so hard to save a little bit of our history, only for it to be lost anyway was so tragic. All of our achievements as a species, forgotten. But the world that came after was also beautiful in its own way.

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  Jurgens-Red-Army

  70Jurgens-Red-ArmySat 29th May 2021

  It’s em different. Definitely different.

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  Mintie

  71MintieSat 29th May 2021

  @RBMango same, I hope that gets toned down or removed, her remaining in an almost constant lit state is the only thing that bugged me with the presentation.

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  EchoRange

  72EchoRangeSat 29th May 2021

  Be cool if for once straight men didn’t body shame on sight.

  I know she’s not real, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it to every person they see.

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  AhmadSumadi

  73AhmadSumadiSat 29th May 2021

  Crazy to me the number of posts that, instead of referencing how great the game looks (or doesn’t look), focus on Aloy’s looks. Some even seem genuinely upset about it. But this is my shocked face

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  AhmadSumadi

  74AhmadSumadiSat 29th May 2021

  @EchoRange let’s not pretend as if non-straight people don’t also engage in this same behavior. Difference is they’re in the minority so they get a pass. It’s a double standard for sure. But all walks of life both benefit and are disadvantaged by double standards so it is what it is.

  Anyway, I don’t wanna derail the thread with this conversation so I’ve said about all I’m gonna say about it.

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  LordSteev

  75LordSteevSun 30th May 2021

  @EchoRange

  Doesn’t mean they ARE, either.

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  Residentsteven

  76ResidentstevenSun 30th May 2021

  @wiiware what’s wrong with fat I wish they would give her a double chin next, because I think they look cute on lady’s. I don’t get the hate for her face it looks much better in this game imo.

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  Octane

  77OctaneSun 30th May 2021

  I think the little wow moment for me was when they showed Erend’s reaction when Aloy came to rescue her. NPCs didn’t look anywhere near that good in the first game!

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  wiiware

  78wiiwareSun 30th May 2021

  @Residentsteven I don’t have problem with fat, but it’s super weird seeing aloy that’s skinny (and very athletic) in the first game suddenly going fat. It’s like guerilla think the first aloy should be less attractive not to draw ire from some video game “journalist” or something (not pushsquare of course).

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  JJ2

  79JJ2Sun 30th May 2021

  I don’t get why people talk about cartoon graphics. Horizon 2 looks way more realistic HZD..

  Also she has the same cheeks people. Don’t be silly. She isn’t ‘fat’. What a ridiculous , body shaming, idea.

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  Residentsteven

  80ResidentstevenSun 30th May 2021

  @wiiware it’s like when they changed Lara Croft, people didn’t like they just made her look like a more normal natural looking woman. Maybe that’s what they did here even Claire from resident evil changed a bit and people moaned saying she looked like tobey maguire.

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  wiiware

  81wiiwareSun 30th May 2021

  @Residentsteven I don’t have problems with lara croft and jill since their game is a reboot/remake, but I have problem with aloy because horizon fw is a sequel, not a remake.

  With lara croft my problems is not the model but the personality though, she’s so whiny in the reboot, I like old confident lara in tomb raider 1-3 compared to the reboot lara.

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  JJ2

  82JJ2Sun 30th May 2021

  @Toypop

  They haven’t ‘backtracked on “generations”’. It’s a false narrative.

  Nobody ever said there won’t be cross generation games.

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  Residentsteven

  83ResidentstevenSun 30th May 2021

  @wiiware oh no not old tomb raider imo tomb raider didn’t start till the 2nd reboot, not only did the graphics look bad so were the controls holding down 5 different buttons to jump to was total pain. Making it like uncharted was a brilliant idea because I love uncharted.

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  Toypop

  84ToypopSun 30th May 2021

  @JJ2

  “We have always said that we believe in generations. We believe that when you go to all the trouble of creating a next-gen console, that it should include features and benefits that the previous generation does not include. And that, in our view, people should make games that can make the most of those features.”

  They believe one thing, and doing the opposite.

  In reality it is 2021 and they are releasing games designed for mobile CPU’s that were already obsolete upon their release in 2013.

  They are releasing games WITHOUT features and benefits. They are releasing games that are CRIPPLED by being designed around mobile hardware that was decent around 2010.

  The biggest insult is that they want £70 for it. That’s a “premium” price tag for obsolete design software.

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  Residentsteven

  85ResidentstevenSun 30th May 2021

  @JJ2 exactly she looks fine to me.

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  wiiware

  86wiiwareSun 30th May 2021

  @Residentsteven Tomb raider 1 on psone is my jam

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  Th3solution

  87Th3solutionSun 30th May 2021

  @munstre Ok, I might look that up, but your explanation suffices. The headlines in all the major outlets read “4K, 60fps, and ray tracing” but I remember there was some qualifier there. Still, impressive for the size of studio this early in the generation and likely a feat that could not be done on PS4.

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  SolarSailor

  88SolarSailorSun 30th May 2021

  TBH it looks worse to me. Sure, more texture, but she looks uglier

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  Plankton-Warrior

  89Plankton-WarriorSun 30th May 2021

  I think it looks awesome, can’t wait to play it on ps5

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  feral1975

  90feral1975Sun 30th May 2021

  Seems to have a bit of a Tracy Beaker look about her now.

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  Th3solution

  91Th3solutionSun 30th May 2021

  @munstre Yes, dynamic 4K is what I think they call it. I’ve read opinions of graphics enthusiasts who feel the upscaling techniques are so good nowadays that it’s a waste of resources to render native 4K. We’ll see how the final build of Horizon tackles the visual fidelity. The game will likely be huge — with an open world that probably will be as big or bigger than Zero Dawn. And this video is such an incredibly small piece of what is likely to be a 40 hour game (or longer) that it’s impossible to draw large definitive conclusions, positive or negative. First impressions for me are good and it looks great so far. I’ll be playing the PS5 build, but time will tell what the end result will be, especially on PS4.

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  eagletrippin

  92eagletrippinSun 30th May 2021

  @RBMango After playing mostly 60fps — and even some 120fps — games early this generation, I cannot go back (to 30). Give me smooth, seamless gameplay over “true 4k” or ray tracing, any day…

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  LJ_314

  93LJ_314Sun 30th May 2021

  How do you get fat when you’re constantly running, climbing, fighting, and trying to find scarce resources in a post apocalyptic world?

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  Flaming_Kaiser

  94Flaming_KaiserSun 30th May 2021

  @BRUTALSAM The game looked fantastic already so i have to disagree the game looks stunning runs great i love it.

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  Flaming_Kaiser

  95Flaming_KaiserSun 30th May 2021

  @Toypop The game looks epic runs fantastic has new options gameplay wise what are you talking about?

  @LJ_314 How is she is fat? She has a chubby face

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  Toypop

  96ToypopSun 30th May 2021

  @Flaming_Kaiser it looks like a good PS4 game.

  I don’t have a PS4.

  I don’t play games on hardware derived from 10 year old laptop chips.

  I want PS5 games.

  I know what it could have been. What they are offering falls well short of what we could have had.

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  AdamNovice

  97AdamNoviceSun 30th May 2021

  Aloy’s face is this year’s puddlegate. No wonder some people have eating disorders.

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  BansheeNorn

  98BansheeNornMon 31st May 2021

  Surprised they made aloy even uglier than the first game. Her face is fatter more whiter and has freckles. She been eating too much robot dinosaur meat…

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  Ryu_Niiyama

  99Ryu_NiiyamaMon 31st May 2021

  Makes me wonder if a remaster of the first game is inbound. Like with spiderman.

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  cali_kush70

  100cali_kush70Mon 31st May 2021

  Horizon Forbidden West looks leaps & bounds BETTER than HZD! Not only to the character models look more realistic & lifelike, the environments are ABSOLUTELY stunning especially considering this is NOT a full fledged PS5 game (It’s a cross-gen game that still has to run on PS4)! I’m also in love with the traversal mechanics, the way aloy moves is way more fluid and her melee mechanic has improved drastically! I’m extremely excited for this game, everyone saying aloy put on weight and stuff I don’t see it like that. I see the character as having BETTER facial animations for instance when you smile in real life what happens to your cheeks? The puff up. One thing I noticed in the trailer they seemed to focus on her facial expressions quite a bit. I genuinely hope we get to play the game sometime this year, although if not no worries as there’s Soo many amazing games to keep me occupied

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  Boldfoxrd

  101BoldfoxrdMon 31st May 2021

  @LJ_314 how does a thin woman get well on the way to being the incredible hulk in a zombie apocalypse

  Reminds me of that infamous quote from David benioff of game of thrones.

  ”Creatively it made sense to us because we wanted it to happen.”

  Obviously it’s an awful excuse but I guess the people in charge, like Naughty Dog, do what they want.

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  Magin

  102MaginMon 31st May 2021

  I was really looking forward to this when the PS5 launched and even held off playing the original for fear of fatigue but it just looks so boring. Maybe, i’ll give it a try eventually but probably not. The gameplay just looks very boring.

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  jamberino93

  103jamberino93Mon 31st May 2021

  Maybe she been in lock down with the rest of us? still though I loved the game play and can’t wait to play this!!!

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  sanderson72

  104sanderson72Mon 31st May 2021

  It’s funny that about a year ago, some people would have been wow-ed by the graphical detail on offer here.

  Now, because it isn’t some 4k, 60fps, ray-tracing, uber shiny extravaganza, we get those same people claiming that it is rubbish?

  Well, suck it up those same people, ‘cos in order for the developers to actually make a profit, PS4 is going to be here for some time.

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  3MonthBeef

  1053MonthBeefMon 31st May 2021

  I have to wonder something…..where was all of this critical analysis and sudden awareness as to the games visual issues when it HZD first came out?

  And its not just this game where people seem to be all for wearing their blinders until the gaming media says otherwise.

  Its funny because plenty of people bought HZD so its not like that was a barrier for anyone getting it.

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  Flaming_Kaiser

  106Flaming_KaiserThu 3rd Jun 2021

  @Toypop I dont have a PS4 so why are you talking about it looking like a PS4 game. The game looks great better on PS5 runs great more options in gameplay.

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  Toypop

  107ToypopThu 3rd Jun 2021

  @Flaming_Kaiser at a fundamental level, if you design a game to be cross-gen, it has to be designed to run on a 2010 laptop CPU.

  The PS5 and modern PC’s can up the resolution, use higher frame rates and additional graphics effects can be added.

  But the game, as it is designed at a fundamental level, is still crippled and hamstrung by that old hardware.

  You will come to realise this in a few years.

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  NeoTechni

  108NeoTechniFri 4th Jun 2021

  @PhhhCough *chubby

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  Oz_Momotaro

  109Oz_MomotaroFri 11th Jun 2021

  @Arugula I am not interested in people hating on HFW – however, I can’t lie. I didn’t think that looked like Aloy. I understand that this occurs sometime after HZD… but she kinda looks like she’s been through her own COVID experience (haven’t we all put on some weight?). Weird facial shape aside, it her face was one of the weaker parts of the trailer (that and a lot of weird artefacts that NO ONE is talking about). I get that it’s still early, but changes to facial models is the hardest thing to walk back.

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